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Eva ([personal profile] aruan) wrote2003-12-12 08:04 pm

Okay, I'm just going to sum it all up.

My only issue was that Bruce was selling the clips for a profit. If he'd made them available at cost, I wouldn't have cared if he'd asked to use them or not. Heck, I'd make the CDs myself if someone asked. I'm glad people have kept my name attached simply because it means people have been getting back to my journal to say how much they're loving them. But I don't care if they don't, so long as they're out there sharing them.

However, Bruce's calling me "greedy" for not sharing the clips extensively enough on my own and objecting to his solution of turning around and charging people for them? Fuck that. Obviously, the solution here is that I need my own webspace to make it more available, which don't think I'm not looking into doing right now. I've bought from him before, yes (for the record, all TV appearances and nothing commercially available), and most of his stuff really is doing a service to fandom - all the rare appearances and such that won't be reaired all in one place and fairly reasonably priced, even when he's not having a sale.

Whatever, man. Anyone who wants it, and I say this with any media I mention, need only hit me up one way or the other and I'll get it to you some way.

Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] without-me.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Bruce is calling you greedy?

Fuck that sideways. I don't care how much of a service he does to fandom, that bites.

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] gjstruthseeker.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, his e-mail to me didn't use that specific word, that was a quote from someone else who quoted him in her entry. His e-mail to me went something like this:

Hello! Okay, I removed it from the website and
you just became hated by many NSYNC fans now.


Yeah, words and me right now? Not so much. Gonna go out and get some dinner, maybe a movie, but something far away from my computer for a while. For the record, I never asked him to take it down, I objected to the way he was making it available. But you know what, I'm almost sorry for all of it now. I just want to throw it all in his face and say, whatever man, fuck you and the lousy way you handled this, I don't care anymore, sell it for what you want and just be done with it.

*takes a deep breath*

*walks away*

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] without-me.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs you*

Yeah. Dinner and a movie sounds good. But please, don't let him and his assholery make you feel anything but great about the joy you brought to many, many people. Just because he can't (or doesn't choose to) understand the issue here doesn't change the validity of your position.

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] gjstruthseeker.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs you tight and keeps you*

Yeah, Schiz and I have been chatting, too, and really, I need y'all sitting next to me to remind at irrational moments like this that, yes, he is in fact being rude and an "asshat" and that we've been more than thorough in getting the clips around to everyone, and that ultimately he's trying to turn a profit on something that was meant as public domain. If he were providing a service, he'd be doing what we are, or offering the discs at cost. Sometimes I need it spelled out like that.

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] claire.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing to say that hasn't already been said, but I just had to express my deep, deep love for that icon ;)

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] gjstruthseeker.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Thankee! Lance and I share that particular descriptive, and he just lends himself so readily to iconing. *g* Yours rocks a pretty lot as well. Mmm, Euro!Sync. *is going to hell*

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] timberho.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
No.. don't let him win. What you did is awesome.

*hugsyoutight*

Don't let this bastard get you.

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] gjstruthseeker.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm good. It's fine, I just need to step away. Which, doing right now.

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] meinnim.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello! Okay, I removed it from the website and you just became hated by many NSYNC fans now.

Wow. Petty much? Nice to know he isn't bitter about it or anything.

/sarcasm

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] gjstruthseeker.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. Whatever, man, sorry to cut into your bottom line, however unimportant you keep saying it is. *rolls eyes* Again, just for the record, I never told him to remove it, just objected to the way (read: the cost at which he) was distributing it.

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] digital-diva.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello! Okay, I removed it from the website and
you just became hated by many NSYNC fans now


Considering the support you got from us here in LJ land, I doubt that very much.

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] gjstruthseeker.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and the thing is there are people who don't know about the JJB or nsycnstudio or LJ who know about him and it would be great for them to have it, too. My only beef was that he was charging above-cost for them. I even would've been okay with some margin given that he claimed to have cleaned them up even more and doing the actual work of burning, but not what he was charging. Also, there was a way to go about dealing with the whole issue, and he's been curt and insulting.

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] embitca.livejournal.com 2003-12-12 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn. I cannot believe this fucking guy. I wish you had just gone ahead and quoted his reply to me. I was out for the past several hours. I should have just left the post unlocked. My bad.

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] gjstruthseeker.livejournal.com 2003-12-13 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
No worries. What I was amused by was that the way he phrased it, it was JC thinking I was greedy about sharing audio he hadn't authorized me to record in the first place. So... I shouldn't have done it, but since I did, I should be doing everything in my power to spread it far and wide through all fandom? *shakes head*

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] tallories.livejournal.com 2003-12-13 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Ridiculous. You were kind enough to make those files and spread them far and wide amongst the online *NSYNC fandom. The only thing Bruce is upset about is not being able to sell them for his own profit, hence the little rant on his site. Don't waste your time worrying about jerks like that, hon. *hugs*

Re: Waitaminnit.

[identity profile] gjstruthseeker.livejournal.com 2003-12-13 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs* Thanks, hon. I'm just done with the whole situation. *washes hands*